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Welcome to the Yoga Nation.
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The Spirit of Gratitude podcast on the One Integration platform.
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Hello friends, my name is Yogesh Patel and this podcast explores the themes of bullying, self-awareness and the power of our inner spirit, including the silent battles we all face.
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Join me every week as I invite high-profile guests, as we explore how adversity shapes us, how gratitude lifts us and how we can all uncover the inner strength that we all have within ourselves.
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Join the conversation.
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I appreciate you listening.
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In Question how does a martial artist go from the dojo to carving out a legacy that spans Hollywood, world stages and even Tony Robbins' journey?
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Great Grandmaster and Quanjinim Ernie Reyes Sr.
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Is that individual holding the rare distinction of a 10th degree black belt in Taekwondo?
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If there was a Mount Rushmore of martial art legends, master Reyes would be carved right into it.
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He co-founded with his late friend Quanjinim and Great Grandmaster Tony Thompson, whowanjanum and great grandmaster Tony Thompson, who is what is now known excuse me as West Coast World Martial Arts Association, and among the high-profile distinctions, his demo team went to be voted the number one martial artist demonstration team in the world by Europe's Budo International and praised by Bushido Magazine With gratitude.
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It is an honor to welcome you to Phoenix and Backlot Studios.
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Great Grandmaster Reyes.
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Thank you so much.
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It's really a historic moment for me, because not only do I spend a spiritual moment with you, is I get to see my instructor, grandmaster Dan Choi, who I haven't seen for 47 years.
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So this is a journey, it's a pilgrimage, and I'm just doing it for myself and great Master Consumptoni, so I'm happy to be here.
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Wow.
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Normally, as one martial artist to another, I didn't quite achieve my black belt, but I got to pluma too.
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Normally I would take a bow, but in this case I honor you.
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My consciousness is paying tribute to your consciousness with gratitude.
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Thank you.
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Well, I'm very curious to find out.
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Master Reyes, what was it like teaching Tony Robbins?
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Could you share a fun story about that?
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Well, what happened was we were in Maui.
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I was actually taking his mastery course, right Okay, and my great friend who's passed away is Grandmaster Jun Ri, so he's the one that actually taught him.
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But he knew I was going to end up being there and he goes.
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I want you to come up on stage and we're going to test Tony Robbins.
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So I helped do the testing for him, so I had an opportunity to do some of his certain techniques and I even held the boards for him right there.
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And you know how he has six, five, you know, 200 and something pounds and his power was amazing, amazing.
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But he missed it the first time, right Okay, and I said take a breath, focus in center yourself, do what you tell me to do, go for it.
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And then he broke it.
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So it was a great experience to be able to do that and I'm just happy that Grandmaster Junry just again manifested it wasn't planned.
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He just saw I was being there taking the course.
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But yeah, tony Robbins really impacted and empowered WCWM Association myself, ernie Jr and our entire association.
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Yeah, so we did all the firewalks and all that.
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That's amazing.
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What is it about martial arts, besides the punches and the kicks?
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That helps a person look for the answers within themselves.
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So I think it starts from the first day that somebody comes in as a white belt Whether you're a white belt or tends to be black belt we have a process right.
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They come in, they bow to the floor, then we take them in and bow again to the instructor, and so those little elements that brand new people don't even realize it's.
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They're on the journey of finding not just the exterior thing, which is all about punching and kicking, but again within themselves.
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So they're brand new at it.
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We have them sit down and they just have them sit on their knees.
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After they bow into the instructor, they sit on their knees, they close their eyes, then we teach them how to just breathe, just inhale for four counts, hold for four counts, exhale and then hold for four.
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So it's basically the box breathing that a lot of people do these days, right.
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And then we have them just stay there and sit, sit still, and it doesn't matter whether you're four years old or 80 years old, like my sister who's 80 years old and she's going to be testing for her black belt.
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Everybody's got to sit still.
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And again, when you see these people, it's hard for people to sit still, especially during these times and days.
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Too much electronics, too much going on fast pace.
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You know what I'm saying.
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Lifestyle, but we calm them down.
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So we just had.
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Is it through the breathing or is it something else?
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I think the breathing is first and foremost.
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You got to control the breath right.
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The next is focus and concentrate.
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Concentrate on being in the present moment.
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Not think about and the instructor's walking through this process not thinking about what happened today, was it good or was it bad.
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Be in the present moment.
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So when you're being in the present moment, you start to internalize of yourself and you, sitting there, you're going to find a lot of things that monkey mindset is going to be going off and you're going to be distracted in so many different ways.
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But as you practice more and more, it gets better, because we have black belt training.
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There's a 10-week cycle of black belts training that we get into.
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The first thing I do we're not punching and kicking.
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We're going to develop our mind and spirit first.
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So we're going to sit down, focus in, breathe and listen to my mastery notes.
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So my mastery notes are like life skill ideas and basically what's the primary goal besides kicking and punching.
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So I talk about life goals and things like that and then Now is that to rewire the brain and its chemistry?
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Well, it's both things right, because, again, you know, it's kind of like when you look at all this, it's kind of like it's happened a long time ago, ancient times, right now science gets into it yes then you get the neuroscience right then you get the research and they know that it's all part of the way of again reaching your highest self.
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but your highest self, like you said, you can't.
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You can't do, you could only do so much on the outside.
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But once you start getting internalized, it becomes a whole other thing Because, like I was going to say, we have black belt training, so everybody's trying to sit there and they're doing it, from young again to old, young teenagers to young adults, to senior citizens right Going for you know, again, the ability is going to be different, but the curriculum is exactly how it's supposed to be.
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So they've got to sit there, cross leg palms here, focus in breathing, and a lot of them have been labeled ADHD, hyper active, whatever, and I can guarantee after 10 weeks they're not moving.
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Nobody's moving, really Nobody's moving.
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They may be moving a little bit, but not moving that fast.
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So I have a friend, his name is master chun and he's the head of the buddhist temple in morgan hill.
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So your father's going somewhere in that area, right morgan hill or something.
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Yeah, that's where I grew up, so he became a good friend of mine and tony thompson's.
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So he was talking about life and death.
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Because I go to him every once in a while I'm a born Christian, right, and so besides that he's got so much valuable information so I kind of tap into his mindset.
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I said so, tell me a little bit about life and death.
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So he's talking about life and death and there's a fly going all over.
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My wife Marge was there watching what's happening.
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My wife Marge was there watching what's happening.
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He didn't flinch, he just stayed focused.
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Was that focused?
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And concentrated and calm and talked about life and death.
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So his perception of life and death was this he goes.
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When somebody passes away, what's on the tombstone RIP Rest in peace.
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So he goes.
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That person will never, whether it's your friend or your husband, your wife, your child, whoever, they're not going to rest in peace until you become peace within yourself, then they will be at peace.
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Otherwise it will never happen.
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So that's the first step that we try to do.
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Then we do affirmations right.
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And what is the purpose of West Coast martial arts Is to develop oneself physically, mentally, spiritually, with good character.
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So that's the beginning process.
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Well, that leads me to my next question.
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Your dojo is built on four words, sir Honor, loyalty, family and bravery.
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Right, how did these words come alive in the class?
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And how do they follow your students out the door and into everyday life?
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So we tell everybody what is honor.
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Honor is wear it like your armor, live with integrity, have respect and discipline, and respect for not only yourself, but respect for others.
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So what's the next one?
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No, it just got me reflecting about.
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You know, to the citizens of the Yoga Nation, I tend to be my own worst critic at times.
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So a lot of it is do I have the ability to self-respect myself?
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Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.
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And it needs to be completely the opposite of negating or eliminating the self-deprecating thoughts that I sometimes have.
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Now I've been through that martial arts journey, but that was 10 years ago.
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Maybe I need to reset.
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Little by little.
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It's never too late.
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No, it certainly isn't.
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And on the topic of martial arts, how does that empower someone to stand up to bullying?
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Stand up to bullying.
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I'll give you my thought, but I would love to hear from you first.
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So bullying is something I would love to hear from you first.
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So bullying is something I could relate to Okay.
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Because it happened to me when I was in grammar school.
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I couldn't read, couldn't write.
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Flunked first and second grade.
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I was the worst student Wait.
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Really.
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Yes.
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And I was intimidated, intimidated couldn't tell.
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I was intimidated, right, and just had a lot of fear factor and whatever, and so it was a hard time for me just to relate what was happening.
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Yeah, then as I went school it was in eighth grade, so I went to Catholic school from grammar school all the way to junior high school.
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In ninth grade we were taught by Jesuit priests right.
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And so what ended up happening was there was a bully, and he would bully me and my friend every day, right, calling us names, every nasty name that you could think we were, that right yeah and so, and this was constant and we really never told anybody, so one day because just out of fear or whatever, you know not, and just being so young and not even knowing during these days that it was bullying.
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Got it Okay sure.
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Because it was just this bad guy giving us a hard time every single day.
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Yes.
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Now it's termed bullying, right, and there is a lot of bullying, because I never realized it, but we have black belt testing and there's testimonials.
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At the end A lot of kids come up and explain that they were bullied some kind of way.
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So I was going through that.
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Then one day he, in front of the class, when I was walking in and my friend behind him, he comes up to me, bumps my chest, pushes me like I want to fight, I don't know, and at that point I just lost it.
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Wow, so he was like 150 pounds.
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You know, as a high school person I was 115 pounds as a thing.
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He was like 5'8", I was 5'3".
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I grew a little bit more, but that's the challenge.
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And I hit him so fast and hard right in the stomach it just made him fold over and I didn't stop, I just kept on going.
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I just kept on.
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I didn't know what ground and pound was, but I was just ground and pounding him.
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Then the father walks in I mean the priest, the Jesuit brother, comes in.
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He sees me beating up this guy.
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So what happens?
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I'm the one that gets in trouble.
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Yeah, you get in trouble.
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So back in those old days, catholic school, they line you up, they have a board of directors right, and the board of directors is a board, a real board.
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Okay, okay.
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They line you up, they tell you to bend over and bam.
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I was hoping you wouldn't have that visual, but yeah, I get it.
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So it's me, I jump high.
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I was hoping you wouldn't have that visual, but yeah, I get it.
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So it's me.
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I jump high and the whole thing is I got the board of education that don't do stupid things like this.
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It wasn't stupid.
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You set up for yourself.
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It was courage.
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So I said no, but the process I think could have been better.
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So I told them.
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You know what I said to myself everybody who's watching, don't do that, because there's better ways to go about doing it, and in martial arts we don't take that way.
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We've got to talk somebody.
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First of all, we always create distance and we want to just make this and we're not here to be instigators of it.
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We're here to be protectors of it.
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So unless you have to right and there's a last resort, then you got to do what you got to do.
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But we're never here to harm anybody.
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Yes, that's amazing.
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That's great advice or wisdom, I should say not advice and your mom used to have a famous saying there's always a way Right.
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If you were sitting across from someone right now who's feeling stuck in anxiety or depression, how would you help them believe that that's true for them too?
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I would tell them that.
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First of all, I'd tell them the story about my mom right.
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Where did she come up with that motto or slogan?
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Exactly I want to know that myself.
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So she was one of the first Filipino immigrants to ever come to the united states in 1920.
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So she was just getting paid 16 hour, 16 cents an hour, so you had to have two or three and then she had 12 children right and women.
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During these, those that you think it's bad people complain these days.
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Think about how it was there.
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They were just.
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You know what I'm saying.
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They pretty much stand down and follow what I say and do.
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They don't get an opportunity to grow or become the best that they could possibly be.
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So she worked in the fields, so did California Working in the fields.
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So did my father, and they worked hard, right.
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They put me in the fields.
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So did my father, and they worked hard, right, they put me in those fields and then the whole thing was again.
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It was just like a matter of when I was young, I didn't just believe in our words.
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There's no way I don't want to end up doing that.
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But as I got older I was just thinking about, you know, no matter what I've gone through, because I've went through some hardships, both me and Tony, during college, as we were on food stamps, social welfare and all that Ernie Jr was on the way.
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It was really tough times, but I would always think to my mom that there is always a way.
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So no matter how difficult things are and I've been through some people just see the end results right, of course he did all this and all.
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of course they don't see the darkness there's dark times and things that you're confused thinking about.
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I'm quitting college and everything because I got to provide for my son.
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That's coming.
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What do I do?
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And I just try to always remember there's always a way.
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And so when I think about that, there's always a way.
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And so when I think about that, there's always a way.
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It brings me power.
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And I graduated when I was about I was a senior at san jose state university.
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Okay, I was ready to drop out.
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Really, it was that close to make it happen.
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I said, nah, I gotta do it for my mom.
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She did the best that she can provide for all of us.
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I've got to do that for her.
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So, knowing that and where we come from, everybody goes through.
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That's where the honor comes in as well.
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Yeah, a lot of people go through a lot of hardships.
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Yeah.
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But I think when you have people that love you and could care for you, you know what I'm saying and, like I just told you, my story right is I couldn't read or write and I just kept on going and going because I was really the dumb jock until 11th grade, right.
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And 11th grade, something happened to me that just said I'm tired of being the dumb jock and I'm going to change.
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I came from within.
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Yeah, so it's all that.
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You know hardships that.
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I saw the hardships of me going and working on those fields, bent over like it was 12 or 15 hours a day, with Mexican braceros and Filipino people agriculture, cutting the lettuce and strawberries, and all of that.
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And being in that, I just said you know what I could be better at this?
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People would call me dumb and ching-chong and all of that.
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And being in that, I just said you know what I could be better at this?
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People would call me dumb and ching-chong and all of that.
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And just I said I'm changing that.
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So I was a great athlete.
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So I said I'm going to go model.
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I didn't know about modeling and mirroring people, which Anthony Robbins teaches, and so I said I'm going to follow my friends.
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They're honor students, so I watched them, watched their habits of how they trained and real, meticulously did what they did.
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You know highlighters back in the day, right?
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Just highlighting everything right, Just taking notes, you know, and we had to write everything.
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There's no all this right yeah, it was, everything was written you go to library, you have to go research everything.
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It's like google.
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What is this and this?
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yeah, that's where it comes out, yeah you know it's a whole nother world, right?
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So it was all those kind of trials and tribulations.
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When you go through it and you hear those words, it starts to resonate you and slowly it starts to get into you, right?
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So I started to become, you know, like anybody had to study something, probably you, real fast.
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I had to do it three or five times to even comprehend what I'm trying to do, not getting it whatever.
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So I had to do catch up my base, the base of the foundation.
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It's like martial arts if, if you don't have a base of foundation, don't try to go up and try to get the higher-end techniques.
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So I was behind, so I had to catch-up.
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I had to catch-up on everything.