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Welcome to the Yoga Nation, the Spirit of Gratitude podcast on the One Integration platform.
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Hello friends, my name is Yogesh Patel and this podcast explores the themes of bullying, self-awareness and the power of our inner spirit, including the silent battles we all face.
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Join me every week as I invite high-profile guests, as we explore how adversity shapes us, how gratitude lifts us and how we can all uncover the inner strength that we all have within ourselves.
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Join the conversation.
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I appreciate you listening in.
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Have you ever thought that playing a character on stage or screen could actually help you discover more about yourself?
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My next guest does just that for a living the talented and beautiful Canadian actress, Elena Huffman, known for bringing unforgettable characters to life, from Black Canary in Smallville to the fierce Abaddon in Supernatural and the resilient TJ in Stargate Universe.
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Beyond the screen, Elena's journey through playing heroes, villains and everything in between has given her a rare perspective on strength, identity and self-awareness.
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We'll explore how stepping into these different roles has shaped the way she understands herself and how those lessons can be applied to all of us.
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With gratitude, welcome to the podcast, Elena Hi.
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Hi, I love that intro.
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Thank you, I'm going to walk around with that.
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There you go, beautiful and talented you are certainly.
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Thank you, it's so nice to be here with you.
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Thank you for having me.
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Absolutely.
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You've got a new movie coming out.
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Tell us about it.
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Yes, waltzing with rando.
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Um, it is a a great movie about marlon rando, the late great marlon rando, and his desire to um inhabit the island of tete aroa in tahiti.
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Um, so it takes place in tahiti in the 70s and and the thing that I love about it, the reason I signed on for it a couple of reasons.
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The main one was the nostalgia like to tell a story about such a huge, iconic character like Marlon Brando and to see it from his personal perspective, like he recounts and we say it many times in the movie like being in tahiti and I can attest to this is like is just existing and it's um I remember we had, we have some I'm sorry, just existing.
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What do you mean by that?
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like there's no, uh, he often he referred to his Oscars as doorstoppers, like so when he was in Tahiti he just was.
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He wasn't a movie star, he wasn't, you know, expected to do anything, he just existed and we had, we had several drivers and things while we were there.
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You know, getting us to and from and I remember really cool perspective is like one of my drivers was like how are you enjoying the island?
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And I was like it's great.
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And they said you're so lucky, there's nothing to do here, you can just be.
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And then the other driver said you're so lucky, there's so much to do here.
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And they meant the same thing.
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It was like there's time to be, it's hiking and fishing and napping and just existing and it's yeah.
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So the story takes place of Brando inhabiting this island and so my character I play Dana, and I'm married to Bernard Judge, who is played by John Heater, and he's an architect who gets the infrastructure together, and so we camp on this island for three years and eat coconuts and crabs and homeschool our daughter and, and it's all for this vision that Brando had, which is now a very exclusive hotel, the Brando, and it's owned in part by Leonardo DiCaprio and it's an environmental feat and he had, he had a big emphasis on the environment even way back then.
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Is that close to the Island of Morea?
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Yes, we actually shot it on Morea.
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Oh, really Okay, I vacationed there.
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Okay, so see, there's nothing to do.
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I can't stand that.
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You like to be busy?
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No, I love my naps.
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In fact, I chase tranquility, that calm, undisturbed mind which is, I think, what not even the tropics, but any beach, does for you, because I think that the saltwater itself acts as a natural healing mechanism, where it absorbs negativity.
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Yeah, and anywhere you go, as you know, on the island of morea is like it's not very big and, um, it's just majestic.
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Also, we shot in the winter there it was june, so it was winter for them um, so the sun went down at like 5 pm and, uh, we stayed.
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We stayed on this beautiful coconut farm.
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Oftentimes when I'm away doing a movie like's, it's a little bittersweet because I I'm a single mom of four kids, so I have to like delegate and, you know, figure out a system to have my kids, cause they're all in school and stuff, and so I do have systems in place.
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I've got a great supportive family, um, so there's a little anxiety along with that.
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And then also I go from being like a full-time mom to just working as an actor and it's a little bit of a shift and it can be kind of lonely to be on location, and so I really enjoyed the process of like I just really went in, I started to work.
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I worked with a coach the whole six weeks I was there and I did a lot of like introspective work.
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Coach the whole six weeks I was there and I did a lot of like introspective work and at 5 pm a lot of times I'd take a shower, I'd read a book and I'd go to bed.
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It was beautiful and how do you actually choose your characters?
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I mean, is it the director, is it the script, is it the depth of the of the character themselves?
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How do you, as an actor, do that?
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It's a version of all of the things.
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I mean.
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I think it was Michael Caine.
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He said you know, an actor takes a job for a few reasons.
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One, they really really love the script.
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Two, they really love the character.
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Three, they have to eat.
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It's not reverse order.
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Yeah Well, yeah, I mean we're self-employed, right, and so a lot of times, like if you get an offer or an option comes to you and you're not doing anything and you might not love the script.
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I actually did a movie early last year.
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Um, I thought about the middle of the movie I was like, was this written on chat?
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Gpt guys?
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Like it did not have a lot of character depth and it was, and you know that when it's like really hard to get into the character, but you know it, it paid me and I was able to do the job and feed my family.
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So lots of different reasons, and sometimes you, you don't know, I mean with, with Supernatural.
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I had no idea that playing this character would lead to 15 years of being on this world tour with a fandom that's just robust and amazing and embracive and supportive and philanthropic.
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I mean it's amazing to be a part of.
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Yeah, you're very popular at Comic-Con.
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Yeah, yeah, we're like on tour, like we're Mick Jagger.
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I'm sorry.
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We're like on tour like a rock a mcjagger.
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I'm sorry, we're like on tour, like like a rock star like the stones, huh like exactly the same got keith, richards and uh and the entourage.
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Well, take us, uh, take a step back, uh, for us.
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Elena, how did you get in into, how did you get into acting and how did you know that this was your chosen path?
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it literally just happened to me.
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Um, I think I just, and I I feel this way about everything in my life.
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I just sort of allow and and then sort of lean into what feeds me.
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So I guess if I were to like really look at, I'm sorry you you you mentioned allow, because, willie, what I want to do is unpack that and bring and bring it to light where perhaps a person that's listening to the room, if they're perhaps uncertain about their career choice or what they should do, especially for college graduates, you mentioned allow, could you elaborate from that perspective?
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I love to be in a space of.
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The only way I can describe it is like a visual and that's just literally like heart, open posture, like you would do in a yoga class, at the top of your mat, you know, you just literally are a vessel and allow, I think, get out of your head and get into your heart.
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So I know, easier said than done, but it's a practice, right?
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Anyone who meditates, anyone who is, you know, studies the word.
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I mean it's a practice.
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I'm a gym rat Like you.
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Don't go to the gym and bench 350, you build.
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And so I think the process of creating and curating your life as an artist is allowing opportunities to present themselves and then pivoting, being available.
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So I think you can study, I think you can have an idea of what you want to do and I would say, always be open to oh, it's not what I thought, but it's what I felt and move towards the feeling.
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Um, so I don't know.
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That's kind of the way it's always happened for me.
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So I started.
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Ironically, my dad put my sister and I in these speech classes.
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I was about eight years old or so, and he's a business guy, he's a, he's an engineer with a degree in business, and so he was a high level executive in the tech world and he wanted us to have confidence.
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He wanted us to to be able to public speak, and I think his dream would have been like I'd be a scholar or something he didn't know.
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He turned me into an artist.
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I can play one, and it was like this quirky theater teacher in the Stratford theater in Ontario which is very famous.
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Bill Shatner came up through there and so I just I think that was probably the origin of it.
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It at least planted a seed, and then I was scouted in a mall several years later, when I was 14.
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Um, and as a model, and uh, I was living in Vancouver at the time, and that again I just sort of the scout approached me and my mom at the mall, um, and I went in for the meeting, yeah, and they said, oh, you'd be, I'm a model scout, I'm interested in you know, seeing if, if you'd be interested in modeling, and so we went in for the meeting and I think, like a couple of months later, I was in Tokyo working as a model.
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But you had to put yourself in that position, though I mean maybe not you, but certainly that fateful day where you and your mom did go to the mall.
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So I think part of it is yes, you allow yourself to have these experiences, but on the flip side, you need to put yourself in those positions.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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I mean that was literally like a stranger just kind of approached us, but.
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But yeah, I mean just just being being.
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And then, and then I did that for years.
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Um, all throughout high school, I homeschooled myself, I was a model and, um, yeah, we didn't, we didn't have laptops, we didn't have email.
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I would carry all my books and I'd FedEx my uh, my papers back and get them FedExed back, and so I kind of had a system for that.
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And then, when I was 18, I was living in Germany and my parents, my dad, got relocated to Texas and I was under 21, and so I qualified for citizenship under his visa and, um, this was pre nine, 11.
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Uh, and he worked for Motorola, so it was a huge company and you know, the immigration process was, you know, very handled on our part.
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Um, and uh, I was modeling a lot in Texas and then New York, and then my agency sat me down at one point and she said you know, we're seeing more and more actors on the covers of magazines and less models.
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We're going to open a theatrical division.
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Do you have any interest?
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And I was like I think so.
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I did this thing when I was a kid.
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You know little theater programs and I just started making movies and it just kind of again.
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I just, I just said yes, wow.
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Again, you allowed yourself to say yes, and the proverbial let the chips fall where they may, yeah, well, that leads me to my next question.
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I mean, every character you've played, from Black Canary to Abaddon, carries.
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Carries a different type of strength.
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Abaddon is the pronounced solution, just to correct it.
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yeah, Abaddon, thank you.
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So again, you've played these characters that had a different type of strength, and when you've stepped into these roles, how much of Elena sneaks in and how much do they end up teaching you about yourself?
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I always learn.
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I'm always so incredibly grateful for all of those experiences.
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And you know, I get asked a lot like what, what's your favorite character that you've played?
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And my joke is it depends on you know.
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It's like it's like choosing your favorite kid it depends on the day.
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Who's being a brat, who's you know, um, but they're all very distinct times in my life and, um, a lot of that is the influence of how I played them.
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And so, um, TJ on on Stargate, she's probably one that's like the most near and dear to my heart.
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I think I learned so much from her.
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I didn't like her at first.
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I thought she was annoying.
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I thought she was a bit of a crybaby.
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She would always cry.
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She was like I had to surrender to my vulnerability and that was her superpower.
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She expected to be honored and loved and she expected to be supported and I kind of didn't.
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I was more like muscle through it, you know headstrong, and she's a soldier, you know she's, she's trained to to fight and she's also a medic.
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But she still was like, empowered by her vulnerability, and I learned a lot from her.
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And that's not necessarily a weakness, correct.
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No, no, that's her strength, that's her superpower and I just learned so much from her.
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And it was also a very interesting time in my life Personally.
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I was pregnant on the show.
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I got pregnant during the first season and I didn't mean to.
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I actually probably should have got divorced, to be honest, but we made up and had a baby and they wrote it in and it was a really cool storyline for TJ.
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But it was probably the best year of my marriage because we had reconciled and then we ended up getting divorced a few years later.
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But that whole time frame in my life was amazing and I credit that to TJ's presence in my life.
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Fictional life helped with your non-fictional life.
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I think there's always a part of you that's going to be in your characters.
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Abaddon is like the queen of hell.
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She's pure evil.
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She has no humanity.
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She's a lot of fun, but she's tremendously arrogant.
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I mean she like to her own detriment.
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That's what took her out.
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And I always say she, she was, she chose to be possessed.
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Josie is her vessel, her human vessel.
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You gotta follow the lore.
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Josie is her, her human vessel.
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You gotta follow the lore um.
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Josie is her, her human vessel.
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And she chose um to be possessed by Abaddon because she felt it was an opportunity.
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She's from the 60s and she felt it was an opportunity to sort of break the glass ceiling.
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As a woman, and I always thought like the better story or a more empowered storyline if they were to continue that storyline after abaddon died would be to tell the story of josie, because she's a human, she has human qualities and she has desire and she has passion and she has strength, but she also has vulnerability and empathy and um.
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You know all the things abaddon did not have.
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So, between your characters and you as a person, elena, what would you say to a person that is perhaps going through a challenge in their life, that, whether they're trying to overcome adversity or perhaps redefine strength through gratitude, so how, what would you say to that person?
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I mean, I love what you're doing with gratitude, because I think that is just the essence of function in your daily life.
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I'm a, you know I'm a.
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I'm a believer in in God and I read scripture and I I I feel like there's more moments in my day that I'm in gratitude than not.
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I know I know the opposite of of you know life that I live.
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Um, I think sometimes when we're uncomfortable, we want to escape it and I would just encourage um sitting sometimes in the discomfort, not not getting help.
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But I don't know if we have to distract ourselves all the time.
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Um, I know that this is like a trend.
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People say like they're raw dogging their flight, like they're not going to listen to music or watch movies.
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I travel all over the world.
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I never turned the TV on Um, if anything, I'll have like meditation, music and I just sit on a 14 hour flight.
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I think sometimes we need to sit and be um, which is what Brando learned in uh in, uh in Tahiti.
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But um, no, I'm not saying suffer, I think there's, you know there's, there's.
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There's a time where there's a difference.
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There's a time when you need to get help.
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There's a time when you do need to escape elements.
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If it's a toxic family life or work environment, I mean, there are obviously definite reasons to seek help and understand why you're uncomfortable or being abused.
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You know, we definitely don't want to make excuse for abuse.
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I think there's also a similarity between your profession of acting and gratitude.
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I mean actors, and I got this from ChatGBT around perspective and empathy.
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It says actors step into other people's lives, seeing the world through their eyes.
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Gratitude works similarly.
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It shifts the focus from what's missing to what's meaningful, helping people empathize with others' struggles and triumphs.
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I love that.
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Yeah, I mean I love that.
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Yeah, I mean I feel that it's, it's um, you know you listed the characters that I play.
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What you didn't list and what you don't know is that I audition probably 60 or 70 times a year and I might work once.
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So that same energy is going into I have an audition right after you and I get off this call to play a fire chief.
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I'm going to step into this woman's life and really just absorb her energy and try to understand the perspective that she's coming with.
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And it's an exercise, right, it's like going to the gym.
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So how do you deal with rejection then?
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I mean, if you're batting one out of 60, I mean that's probably would be something like my stat right on the softball field.
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Again, that's a practice, that's staying in gratitude for the opportunity I love.
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A friend of mine told me this story.
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He said he he ran into a friend at an audition and this friend was a more working actor than him and and he kind of was discouraged.
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He walked in the room and he's like you're here, like I'm not going to get this job.
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What's the point?
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You know, and we, we all get there at a certain point and uh, I said, well, what, what's wrong?
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And he said that he's like well, you're here, what am I, what am I even doing here?
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He goes man, I don't know, but about you, but for me this is the only audition I've had all week.
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I get to be an actor today.
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So I try to look at it like every opportunity is an opportunity for me to be an artist.
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It doesn't pay me, but it pays me, so, um, I probably nurtured your soul too that, yeah, it pays me here, it pays me here.
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Um, so I think, if you understand that, and I think I think for me, I just sort of take the practice of, uh, when I win, I I win.
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When I don't, there's another opportunity and I'm, yeah, I'm grateful, I think, gratitude really.
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And I think that's a good reminder for people that are just happening to go through those motions, right, whether they're a middle-aged person, someone perhaps in their uh, you know, those that are young at heart, or even just an adolescent trying to know their place in the world yeah, and again, I think I think being open and like I don't know what opportunities are going to turn into what I didn't know my one episode of supernatural would take me around the world, would connect me with people.
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You just you really don't know where it's going to lead you, so I just always try to stay open.
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But I also do wish this was a conversation that we had, and I speak about this publicly.
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We all know firefighters have other jobs.
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Right, you can't sustain a living as a firefighter.
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There's a lot of downtime.
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We all know teachers.
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You know either enjoy family life in the summer or take something part-time in the summer.
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I wish that was a bigger conversation.
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Like just because you have to take another job doesn't mean you're not successful.
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There's all different ways.
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That means you're struggling.
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Part of it would be that's the implication, but it it's not necessarily because we're multi-faceted people, right?
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So I, for example um, I start, I returned to the world of modeling.
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We went on strike a couple of years ago and I I had this, my daughter's a model and and the agency she signed with asked me, uh, to sign me, and I didn't.
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I didn't take it too much, I just thought, oh, whatever, if something comes up, great, if it doesn't, that's fine too.
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And then when we went on strike, I said, well, I actually have quite a bit of time.
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I had just come off a show I was on Riverdale at the time and we finished right when the strike started and I was like, well, that in my M45.
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But again, I just kind of said, sure, let's see.
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And what is it?
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45 is the new 25 or 25 is the new 45?
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45 is the new 45.
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I also really dislike this trend that people are like I'm 45 and I look 25.
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No, you don't, you look 45, but you look great.
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Yes.
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I feel very much my age.
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I'm not ashamed of it.
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I love it.
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Embrace you.
