How PGA Tour Winner Ted Purdy Trains His Mind for Focus Under Pressure

Welcome And Meet Ted Purdy

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to the Young Nation, the Spirit of Gratitude Podcast on the One Tigration platform. Hello, friends. My name is Jogash Patel, and this podcast explores the themes of bullying self-awareness and the power of our inner spirit, including the silent battles we all face. Join me every week as I invite high-profile guests as we explore how adversity shapes us, how gratitude lifts us, and how we can all uncover the inner strength that we all have within ourselves. Join the conversation. I appreciate you listening in.

SPEAKER_01 0:41

Today I'm joined by someone who understands that journey as well as anyone. Professional golfer Ted Purdy. A PGA Tour winner, Ted is perhaps best known for capturing the 2005 Byron Nelson Championship against a field that included Vijay Singh, Ernie Ells, Ratif Gusen, and Tiger Woods. From his college days at the University of Arizona to victories across the PGA Tour, Nationwide Tour, European Tour, and the PGA of Latin America. Boy, that passport back then must have been really thick. Ted has lived the full arc of the game. The highs, the pressure, and the setbacks that test what you're made of, which I think we can all relate to. In a game that humbles you more than it rewards you, Ted is writing his next chapter as he works towards earning his champion's tour card. And this chapter might be the most meaningful yet today. With gratitude, I am so honored to welcome you to the podcast, Ted.

SPEAKER_04 1:40

Thanks, Yogi. Thanks for having me.

What Makes Tiger Woods Elite

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Oh, it's again, it's my pleasure. Curious, Ted. When facing Tiger was, and you also won against him, what did that reveal about the gap between being very good and being elite?

SPEAKER_04 1:55

Well, Tiger and I are about the same age, so we've been playing against each other for our whole lives. From junior golf to obviously, you know, hopefully he gets better and comes out on a champions tour. But uh we knew from a very young age, I mean he was on TV at two years old, that he was just a step above everybody else. And um, you know, in junior golf, he beat us. Well, you beat him. I did. I that's what I tell everybody. I beat Tiger like three times. He beat me every other time. Oh, okay. So but um I was able to beat him in match play, and in high school and uh in college I beat him, and then on the PJ tour, I was able to get him, but yeah, he got me pretty much every other time. And we've been playing each other our whole lives. Um, Nota Begay was his teammate at Stanford. Yep. Nota won four times on tour, and he goes, Ted, I've never beaten him. And he won four times on tour because the four terms he won, Tiger wasn't playing.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Right. But it doesn't seem the gap is too wide of a variance because I believe that whether it's you, Nota, or Tiger, there's that degree of high standards. Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 3:14

Yeah. I mean, uh Tiger was just that much better than everybody.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

Even including an elite athlete like yourself back in the day.

SPEAKER_04 3:21

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so he um he had elite, an elite mind, an elite body, um elite coaching. Sure. So um, you know, the stuff that the kids are learning earlier now, I mean, he was the pioneer of all that, the sports psychology, the um you know, just the Butch Harmon being the best swing coach on the planet, mentoring him and um, you know, he he had the you know, Buddhist mind where he was meditating. Where even in college? Oh, he was meditating as a as a kid.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_04 4:09

Yeah, from his mother and yeah, the tie the time. Um so he just he was able to quiet his mind where the rest of us didn't know how to do that. At the time, but at the time, and as we get older, I'm learning. But um, for example, when he made it hole in one at the Phoenix Open. Yes, and he he's the reason there's that 16th hole. Right. I mean it's it's tiger's hole. Um but he was able to slow his mind down, relax, and actually visualize it going in the hole and creating the shot. Like um, he had the ability to do that. And uh we all have the ability to do that.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

I was just gonna say that.

SPEAKER_04 4:51

We all have the ability, and he just was elite at it.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

Amazing.

SPEAKER_04 4:56

Yeah.

Staying Grateful When Golf Gets Ugly

SPEAKER_01 4:57

Amazing. Well, I mean, and that's my next question is that there's the elite mindset you still gotta perform, you're still gonna have setbacks. And so, how do you stay grateful in a game that constantly confronts you with disappointments and the corresponding F-bombs?

SPEAKER_04 5:16

Yeah. Yeah, that's um that's the key.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

That's what you have to teach yourself to And this is a lesson not only applied to golf, but uh in life as well.

SPEAKER_04 5:28

Yeah. Right? And and I guess bring it back to the best that's ever done it is Tiger. Um, he was able to get upset, get himself charged up, and then you know, give himself that 10 10 to 30 seconds of frustration, and then he was able to breathe and get back to where he well, what about yourself?

SPEAKER_01 5:50

What is what is your routine like then?

SPEAKER_04 5:52

Well, yeah, I mean, we're all trying to emulate the best, and um yeah, the gratitude that um I always tell everybody I'm you know, I'm happy and grateful. And I got that from uh getting Bob Proctor. I don't know if you've heard of Bob Proctor, but I haven't. So Bob Proctor is uh uh in the movie The Secret.

SPEAKER_01 6:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 6:16

And I was on an airplane from Phoenix to New York to play uh the tournament in Westchester, I think maybe even the US Open. And I happened to be sitting next to this white-haired, um, you know, energetic guy, and um and it turns out to be Bob Proctor, like the star of the secret, the movie The Secret. And yeah, and we talked for the whole five-hour flight and became really close friends. And um he he was able to, he taught me to be when I'm setting goals and when I'm um uh no matter what the goal is, or if I'm when I'm talking to God, I say, God, I'm happy and grateful that I am doing this. Instead of begging, when you know, I want to win so bad, God please help me. Yes. Instead say, God, I'm happy and grateful that I'm a champion on the champions tour is is my mantra now.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

But um You've gone away from be nice to yourself, be nice to yourself, be nice to yourself.

SPEAKER_04 7:26

Yeah, to be happy and grateful. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Happy and grateful. And um I think that's a lesson that we can all learn, whether it's on the golf course or not in life. I think everyone goes through something, everyone has a story. And I mean, even for me, the key, in fact, I just started doing this only three weeks ago. Instead of saying my daily prayers in the morning in my mind, I am actually in the in that area speaking to God. It's like, God, like you, thank you for everything that you've done for us. Thank you for protecting us, the gifts that you've given us. So you tend to focus more on the positive than on the negative. It's like, I don't have this. Please, God, I wish I had that.

SPEAKER_04 8:12

Yeah, and um, you know, and when you're happy and grateful, it it's it for what you already have, then it leaves room for the stuff to come in.

Visualization That Beats Nerves

SPEAKER_01 8:23

Well, it makes you more relaxed, which you're able to perform better. Correct. Right? Exactly. So how do you do that? What is your some of your mental techniques that you on the course now, right? So, you know, let's let's pretend we're at the 2026 United States Senior Open. And what goes through your mind when you have a three-foot uh put on the 72nd hole to win?

SPEAKER_04 8:46

Yeah. So it go uh it goes back to um like when I won the Bayern Nelson, my beat tiger at the Bayern Nelson in Dallas. Um I happened to be listening to this book on tape by um a local uh taekwondo guy here in Arizona, Mac Newton, and his message was let go. So I was listening to this tape let go, and then in that um same uh speech that I was listening to on cassette tape back in the day, he brought up the University of Chicago, I think, um study where there were three groups of kids that shot free throws. One group shot free throws with no training and just kept doing what they're doing. Right. The second group had some visualization and shot free throws with visualization. Uh and the third group just visualized, just sat on the couch for 10 minutes a day and visualized shooting free throws. And at the end of the study, the group that just visualized improved their free throw shooting better than the other two groups.

SPEAKER_01 10:01

You would have to have some sort of muscle memory.

SPEAKER_04 10:04

Yeah. That's the that's what's amazing. Like you don't have to. Like your brain or your ability. If you're used to shooting free throws, and if you just visualize shooting free throws, you can make the free throw. So um I saw Michael Jordan, he hadn't shot a free throw in like 10 years and closed his eyes and made it. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 10:28

And he was all nervous that he wasn't sure he could do it anymore, but he did no problem. So the week that I won and beat beat Tigers, I was, I just thought I was the kids on the couch shooting free throws. So every time I stepped over a putt, I would visualize that putt rolling into the hole three times. I wouldn't take a practice stroke, I would address the ball, and the balls were just rolling right in the middle of the hole.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

But you'd have to know how to read the green in terms of where it curves or where it goes straight. Yeah, so that's where the visualization, or it's where, you know, I just You're in the moment of battle, right? So you I mean, to me, you have to be that calm to actually see it and then execute on it, as opposed to staring at from any which way on the green. If you can see it in your mind, you can do it. Beautifully stayed in. I love that. So that's the visualization that's a good thing. So that's it.

SPEAKER_04 11:26

So 2026 US Open, senior US Open that's coming up in uh in July or first week in July. If I'm in the present visualizing, um, there's nothing else.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

And I should sky's the limit. Sky's the limit. Now, what about the same 70 second hole? You're 130 yards away, you need a birdie to tie. Same mindset or is it slightly different? Exact same mindset. Really? Exact same.

SPEAKER_04 12:02

In golf, uh, so Pia Nelson, um, Anika Sornstam was a the number one golfer of all time. Yep. University of Arizona grad. Um, Annika and I were at school together down at UV. Pia Nelson is her coach, um, who's actually got a uh uh here in Scottsdale is her where she trains everybody.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

Okay.

Think Box To Play Box

Acceptance And Self-Talk Reset

SPEAKER_04 12:26

So her thing is, um, which and I agree, and Tiger does it, and I do it when I'm successful, and Annika did it throughout her career, was um behind the ball, you visualize it. She calls it the think box. So you're visualizing your shot, and Pia does like crazy stuff. Visualize the ball flying in your favorite color, neon pink or blue, or red, or whatever. Right. Um and then once you cross the think box into the play box, your mind goes blank. Okay. And um, and Tiger, he always hit his ball within seven seconds when he was in his play box. And it was like seven seconds to the second. If it was more than that, he'd back off. And he could, you know, his internal clock would tell it, he'd stop his swing. Everybody's like, oh, how does he stop his swing? Yeah, his internal clock told him he stood over the ball too long. So he would back up and redo it. Annika was five seconds, she was really quick, really fast. Yeah. So she would visualize it and Pia would timer. And as you know, as long as she was hitting that ball in five seconds every time, Pia knew that Annika was going to beat everybody. And when Annika was the first female golfer to play on the PGA tour tournament that I played in at Colonial in Dallas, a golf course that Annika, it wasn't, you know, you don't have to be long around Colonial, you just have to control your ball. Um Pia knew she she was gonna be fine because that first t-shot, she's super nervous. Media from all over the world. Yep. Pia had the timer out, and Annika hit it in five seconds, and she said, Annika's gonna be just fine. And she did end up not making the cut, but uh almost did. And well, it it gets into that rhythm and routine. Rhythm routine. And so that's when you're in the play box, you did you go blank. Yeah. So you visualize and you go blank, let it go. And then the third, the third and probably most important piece of it is after the shot, you have to accept. Right? Yeah. No matter where it went, you don't get, you know, you you're nice to yourself and you accept wherever it went.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Well, and that's the metaphor of life. I mean, yeah, right. Again, I don't I love golf. I don't play golf citizens. But for me, that is what life is about. You play the shot where it lands. And you know, for some, you know, that shot could be a health scare. That shot could be, you know, some a family member being sick or something like that. You know, your grades are poor or you just lost your job. Yeah, flat tire. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 15:29

You know, or whatever. Yeah, you know, sports is a metaphor for life. And um, and I, you know, and I love I love your message in the podcast because it's it's all it's the, you know, and if we play golf the way you are trying to help the world understand life, then well, I'm just bouncing that energy from you.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

And I again, one of the things about golf is are you playing against yourself? Are you playing against the competition, or are you mainly playing against the course? Which one would it be? I have some thoughts, but I want to hear you first. It's 100% against yourself. Really?

SPEAKER_04 16:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

See, I had a different take. So I thought that off the T-box, if you're if a Lynx course, right? Let's just say St. Andrews, you're playing against the course because you need to know where the bunkers are, right? Where the flat area is. On your approach shot, you're playing against the competition. Because you you can say, well, if Bernard Linger just hit it 10 feet, I can hit it within five feet of the uh of the pin. Then on the green, it's yourself. So that's the way that I looked at it. But it's interesting you mentioned.

SPEAKER_04 16:49

No, so if you it's the same thing we just talked about, where it's literally in Lynx golf is it's more difficult than most because the ball just bounce it's you're playing a really hard rolling, crazy fairways with these pits that you could hit a perfect shot and it bounces, bounces, bounces, rolls into the one of these pot bunkers, and you're dead. Now, how do you in the middle of the green? In the middle of the green for some of them. Yeah. Um and so how do you react to that? How do you do you have to accept that?

SPEAKER_01 17:26

So, what is the visualization technique of accepting? Because that gets into the heart of why people are so stressed, right? If they can um there's plenty of messaging, podcasts, or YouTube videos that talk about this, but is it anything specifically in the golfing community that perhaps you or your fellow competitor happens to take in a breath and you know, put your big boy pants on and let's execute again on the next shot?

SPEAKER_04 17:54

Yeah, so um Mac Newton, uh the Taekwondo world champion here in town, I borrowed this from him, but I always say I like myself. And I'll say it a hundred times, I like myself, I like myself. Like no matter what happened in the round of golf, if I'm telling myself I like myself, I like myself, my stress level goes down, cortisol doesn't um elevate. But you're an elite athlete, Ted. That's what I say.

SPEAKER_01 18:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:31

Because I thought that that part you would have died had it dialed in from the Yeah, but even the demons are I mean, I guarantee Tiger has demons. Right. Obviously I mean they they pop up, they're popping up right now for him. I know, I know. And but um but yeah, we all have the same, we all are fighting the same battle with ourselves, and that's why when you say, is it a battle against your part playing partner? My play has no effect on what my playing partner is doing. My playing partner's game has no effect on what's happening in in my life and my game. Um, it's all up to me, and it's 100% up to me. And the golf course uh again is gonna give me what it gives me.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

You know, that's life.

SPEAKER_04 19:20

That's life for anyone, and and being able to visualize what I want and then get in the play box and let go and let it happen, and then and then let like accept and being able to accept the result, yeah, in the moment is the key. It's 100% up to you. I'm responsible.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Yeah, well, there's that's personal accountability too. Um kind of a tangential question to that, to what you just mentioned, Ted is beyond resilience, and you talked about this, but I just want to understand it from my lens, as I talk about gratitude in terms of these five pillars around courage, resilience, appreciation, awareness, and humility. So beyond resilience, what matters most in golf? Is it the courage, awareness, appreciation, humility? And I'll add another dimension, that quiet arrogance.

SPEAKER_04 20:24

You know, that arrogance is belief in yourself, is the is okay. It is one. Um and uh that belief is I'd say the awareness. So because you have that belief, you have these intuitions. Yeah. Like is that um when when a golfer misses a shot, especially at a leak golfer, when he misses or she misses a shot, it's because her she doubted something. Um she didn't have the awareness, she didn't have the intuition, she didn't trust her intuition. So if you have the belief in yourself, you trust your intuition and you let it go.

Coaching Youth And Trusting Process

SPEAKER_01 21:09

If you're not trusting your awareness, then I think that's a lesson that any parent right can think for themselves how to apply these lessons on the golf course and apply to their own day-to-day. Or a teachable moment for their kids, right? And perhaps if they're if they put their child in taekwondo, golf, soccer, whatever. Speaking of youth, what um there's four million golfers here in the US and Mexico that play golf under the age of 18. Right. As I'm not gonna say you're an elder statesman, but a person that has lived through these experiences, as what would you say to them? I mean, what guidance would you offer them that uh you know helps them enjoy the game?

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But at

SPEAKER_01 22:00

The same time make sure that they excel at what they do during every practice or every round that they play.

SPEAKER_04 22:05

This is the easiest question you've asked. There's so much YouTube information. There's so many things you can learn on the internet to help your game. Throw that all away and figure out how you do it. And get a good coach and then stick to that coach and that method. And you don't go searching. You just become you and turn off YouTube. But that the next step. Unless they're watching your your podcast.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Of course. Why not? Taking that a step further, it's about that goal setting. You mentioned it's really not the goals that is, is this process setting. So tell me about that. I guess what is your what is your day-to-day look like?

SPEAKER_04 22:58

Yeah, so my my goal is to win on the champions tour. Yes. And you and the sooner I can make it, the better off I'm gonna be. But how do I do that? You know I'm I've got limited opportunities. I've got to go Monday qualify. I gotta they got rid of tour school this year for the champions tour. So um fortunately I have enough status from my PGA tour career that I can go qualify and and chase it. Um they're not letting like the normal guy off the street. Sure. They're not giving them access anymore, uh, taking away tour school. So uh am I gonna get there by begging God to I want to win a tournament, or am I gonna get there by working it um working out with my TPI instructor in Tucson at three days, four days a week? Uh-huh. Am I gonna get there by so the process is do my golf work specific workouts at MODIS in Tucson and do my short game, my putting routine. I've got a an hour kind of putting short game routine that I have to accomplish. And then um as long as I, you know, and I do hot yoga on the days I'm not with my other trainer, as long as I'm eating right and doing all these things, right? I have that's when the the big goal is gonna happen, is when I'm meet meeting all those little goals.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

Is the same mindset the same where you're just grateful? So you're grateful when you hit a practice shot, you're grateful when you hit a practice put. Does that change the practice versus when you're playing to qualify for the US Senior Open?

SPEAKER_04 24:52

Yeah, when I'm um I think Scotty Scheffler even brought this up. You know, he's the number one player in the world. He's like, I enjoy the process more than I enjoy the winning on the like the going to the gym and and doing my putting routines and doing my strokes and um being able to let go when I'm on the golf course under pressure. Like um, you know, when you get into that flow state, you can whatever you want to call it, the zone, or on the in competition, and there's nothing like it. Like you just you're just letting it happen. You're you're getting out of the way and it's happening.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

I'm processing what you said, Ted, again, as again, this athlete that has achieved success at the highest level, it's kind of no different than what an av, I'll call average, right, person goes through in their day-to-day life. It's just that your profession, I mean, your office is on the golf course versus their office happen, you know, might be on a truck servicing something electrician or an office environment. It's the same. I didn't, I wouldn't not have connected the two together.

SPEAKER_04 26:06

Yeah, I think sports in general are a reflection of life.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

And and you can have that part, yes, but it's just in terms of just the daily routine, the affirmations you tell yourself, the belief that you have in yourself, it's no different.

SPEAKER_04 26:21

Yeah, the most successful people are really self-confident and they're being nice to themselves in their in their head and they're upbeat and positive and optimistic. Like it's no different than and they spread that energy onto others. Yeah, that's when they get the most benefit when they serve.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Yes. That is uh, boy, that's a lot of life, right? I mean, we we earn our paycheck based on our service to others. I think for for your perspective, while you are that competitor, it's also that entertainment factor as well, right? Or the same thing with MJ hitting a game-winning shot against the Utah Jazz. For sure.

SPEAKER_02 27:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Resilience And If You Can See It

SPEAKER_01 27:11

And I guess as we get to the final couple of questions, this has been amazing because I've I'm I'm a better person just by listening to your wisdom. Um and when your career path got harder than expected, what kept you going? That's you've had some ups and downs.

SPEAKER_04 27:32

Yeah, my career has not been a straight line up from left to right. Yeah, it's been all over the place. And um, you know, and a lot of people in my position have just given it up. Like it's just it's it's hard to keep going. And it is. It's really hard to keep working out three days a week, and it's really hard to um practice your short game and and do all the things you need to do to play great golf. Um I think I just love it. I just really love hitting that ball solid. I love the challenge with myself. Um in a you know, I'll be honest with you, I I'm not 100% successful at that, um, obviously.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

But is there an off switch? Can you turn it off?

SPEAKER_04 28:30

So yeah, and my my key is I like myself. Like this is not this is not life or death, and I'm playing a game and I'm okay. And but when you get it that cortisol going and you this fight or flight in your body, your brain goes to places, really dark places, and it's true for me, for everybody else. But if when I say I like myself, I like myself, I like myself, I like I I can get back to what happens if you are in the bottom 20% at a tournament?

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Do you still have that? Do you still believe that? I mean, you can say it. It's one thing to say it, it's it's another thing to internalize it.

SPEAKER_04 29:11

Um yeah, and that's the goal. Like, I'm the I'm gonna go through the process. I'm gonna be in my think box, I'm gonna visualize that shot in bright pink. I'm gonna get in there, I'm gonna let go and let it happen. And it might not happen. But as long as I can do the the last part of it, acceptance. If I can get to the acceptance part, yeah, of course you can.

SPEAKER_01 29:38

Yeah, because a lot of it is quiet, you know, quieting that inner critic that we all have. Quiet, yeah. And it's an advantage at times, and it's also a disadvantage at times. So I think what I'm gathering, you know, bringing it to perhaps the listener of the podcast, is it doesn't really matter. And what matters is just how you, I'll just say, approach life in the manner that you've dealt with, make the best out of the situation. Good things will happen, and having that faith.

SPEAKER_04 30:10

Have the faith that it is gonna happen and the hope. And that's you know, I'm working.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

And that's not empty words, though, right? No, for sure not.

SPEAKER_04 30:19

No, of course not. Um I'm working with a coach down in Tucson, Susie Myers, um, and she her she's written a book called Playing from Point A. And it it's exactly what we've been talking about. But while we've been working, and I've I've had like at Cologne, I didn't I performed decent, but not to the not to where I expected to play, because I was playing great and I wanted to finish higher. Um you know, she just do you have the hope that you're gonna we don't know when this is gonna happen, but it's gonna happen. And um and that's the key.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

I mean personally speaking, uh I'm going through that exact same thing right now, and yeah, I th it's and it it works. It does work. It really does.

SPEAKER_04 31:16

And it's gonna happen. You just have to believe. And when you have that self-belief, you can trust your intuition, you can you can be patient.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

Is that a message for mainly adults, or how could young adults apply to this? Because again, what they grow through in their life, you know, with technology, social media that you know kind of I'm not gonna say corrupts the mind, but it doesn't make them smarter, in my opinion. Right? What would be a message for them?

SPEAKER_04 31:49

Yeah, I mean, I like myself. Yeah. Have that inner confidence, have that inner belief in yourself. And then when you have that belief in yourself, you can be more patient. You can be more accepting. You can trust your intuition. Am I in a situation I shouldn't be in? Am I doing something I shouldn't be doing?

SPEAKER_01 32:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:09

When you trust that intuition and you believe in yourself, then you can act on it.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

Wow. And with all of this conversation, the theme around is that belief in yourself and being kind to yourself. Is there anything that I missed, Ted, in this podcast that you'd like to share to the audience?

SPEAKER_04 32:30

Oh, just you know, if you can see it, you can do it.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

That's simple. No matter what the challenges are.

SPEAKER_04 32:37

No matter what the challenges.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

If the if the ball goes in the water, oops.

SPEAKER_04 32:42

Oops. If you can see it, you can do it. Um yeah, if you're going through some health issues, if you can see yourself healthy, you can do it.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

Yeah, the manifestation takes, takes, and that there is that energy that it listens. For sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:00

Yeah. God listens.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

Yes. Ah. Ain't that the truth? Ted, this has been a wonderful journey to have you on. Thank you so much for your time.

SPEAKER_04 33:10

Thanks for the invite.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

And uh, I'm grateful that you said yes. I and I said I certainly will be one of your best fans out on the P on the senior circuit to say, let's root for my man, Ted.

SPEAKER_04 33:24

Well, after I win the US Open 2026, you have to get me back on.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

Deal. Deal. Uh we uh and I think uh the the shift is we go from Ted Purdy to Ted Lasso. So exactly. Mind of a goldfish. Jason today is one of the best. Thanks, Ted. Oh, my pleasure. This is so much fun. Thank you. Thank you.