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Welcome to the Yogis, I'm Hamas and the one mission helpfulness.
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I'm floating the self-winness and the hammer in this.
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I'm putting the cell and the famous.
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Join me every week as I am hyperfundus.
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As we explore how adversity shapes us, how attitude lifts us, and how we can all uncover the interesting that we all have within ourselves.
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Join the conversation.
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I appreciate you listening in.
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What does it mean when a voice on the radio becomes part of your family without ever stepping into the living room?
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For over 20 years, Damon Bruce has been one of the most recognizable voices in San Francisco Bay Area Sports Talk, having anchored shows on ESPN Radio, KBR, and now hosting his flagship, the Damon Bruce Show, on YouTube.
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What makes Damon stand out isn't just the headlines or the hot takes.
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It's the way his words have bonded fathers and sons together and have bridged generations.
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His greatest compliment when listeners tell him, You've been a part of my family.
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And that must be very humbling to hear those words.
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Damon isn't just a sports talk show host.
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He's a storyteller who turns games into life lessons, reminding us that sports are more than just wins and losses, they're about who we become along the way.
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With gratitude, welcome to the podcast, Damon.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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What a lovely introduction.
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And I tell you, I uh I want to just thank you for having me.
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And what you said is really true.
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When people tell you that they've been part of their family conversations and they listen to my show with their dads and now listen or consume things I do with their sons, I think to myself, number one, wow, I'm getting old.
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And number two, it's incredible to be a part of someone's life like that.
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Because, you know, there's a very, very intimate connection that radio used to have with an audience.
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And I don't know if that audience even exists anymore or if if that media exists currently right now, like it used to.
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But I was the part, I was able to be a part of a golden age of radio where you really made these incredible connections with people and and the stories that they would tell and share, and the way that I was included, in the way that they would bond with their family.
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It's it was so humbling and it meant an awful lot.
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Why do you think sports is like that?
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I mean, why do you think this, amongst anything else we do in our lives, brings people together?
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I think it definitely tickles the funny bone of passion, right?
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And just just being passionate about something as we sort of meander through life, it feels good.
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You know, your serotonin levels go off when when you're excited about a big game or getting together with your friends to watch.
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I think it's a communal event.
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It's one of the last and sadly few communal events that we have.
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Um, that's why it's a shame that so many people have been priced out of going to games because it is a very expensive proposition, but it's a wonderful gathering point.
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It's a it's a town square where we really, you know, have all sort of retreated into the palm of our own hands in social media.
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Uh it's a place to come together and feel emotional about something.
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And, you know, the beauty of it all is it doesn't matter where you're from, doesn't matter where I'm from, doesn't matter what our backgrounds are at all.
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We're here together rooting for Team X.
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And that's what unites us right now.
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And I'm gonna high-five total strangers when things go good, and we're all gonna get angry together when things go bad.
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And emotions with strangers are good.
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I mean, I think that's a big part of it.
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And it just connects people, it connects generations of family members.
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I mean, there's a lot of people who don't know how to talk to their older family members, but through the bond that sports just provides.
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It's it's a touch point for maybe generations that have fewer touch points.
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So it's I think just sports remains uh a beautiful part of our stories, our local stories.
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Sports are provincial, it's about hometowns, it's about families and grandfathers and grandmas and moms and dads, and it's it feels like family.
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Do you think it's also escaping reality too, with the problems and challenges that everyone has, you know, that we all face?
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Sports is that one thing where we can just say, ah, let me just see if you know Carlos Alcaraz can uh can win against Yannick Sinner.
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Yeah, I've always said I work in the toy department.
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And I love that I work in the toy department because uh so many other departments, which are so much more serious and certainly deserve our time and attention.
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This is a place where you can go to escape.
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And I feel like escaping, again, escaping to a place where we can unite in one common interest.
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That's a good common interest, as I think appealing to people, and it always has been.
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And right now, you you look at ratings in the industry and the way that people lean into NFL games, it's the most consumed mass media event we have in our country right now.
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Football games.
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It's uh it's undeniable.
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And I don't know if that's a good reflection or a bad reflection.
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I don't know, but it's it is who we are.
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Well, I think there's also that element, again, to the theme of the podcast.
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There's that sense of gratitude.
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Again, as you mentioned, it's it's a shared experience that you're just grateful that you're able to experience this with another individual.
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It it's important.
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I feel like we've, you know, in many ways retreated, like I said earlier, into the palm of our own hands with social media and computer screens, and we're surrounded by screens.
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And, you know, as I talk to you in my camera right now, I've got five open screens just within my purview.
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I mean, it's and it's incredible how we insulate ourselves and in a world where we can connect like never before, we're as disconnected maybe more than ever before from people.
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So it's I just think it's it's one of the few remaining town halls that we have.
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And we need more town halls.
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Yes, and it actually starts at the neighborhood playground, in my opinion.
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Absolutely.
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I've got two young boys right now watching them assimilate to a new playground that they're you know new at, or or watching playgrounds that they're familiar with, and other kids now come on their turf.
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It's it's a beautiful little social experiment watching it all happen.
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And um I've always said, you know, sports don't build character, they reveal it.
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It's how I end my show.
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It's not my saying that is John Wooden who came up with that, but I've always used that quote to end my show, like almost every show I've ever hosted.
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And people bring it up to me.
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Um, and and I think it it people connect with that.
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Like, I don't know if if this playground activity that my child is doing right now is going to instill character in him, but maybe what his character is is going to come out of him in this moment.
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And I see that in the development of my kids and when they're good sports and when they're bad sports, and when they get up and brush something bad off, or when they make a big deal out of something that really shouldn't have affected it.
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It's amazing watching the development of my kids through the prism of sports.
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They're still so young, they're really not involved even in team sports.
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It's at the playground level, like you were saying.
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Um, but it sports brings out who I think you really are inside.
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I've always said, you know, like money or winning the lottery.
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Winning the lottery would reveal an awful lot about who you really are.
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If you're a good person who wants to spread love and help, you would use that money to do so.
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Maybe if you are more of a selfish person, that would be easily revealed in that process too.
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So um, I think sports and reveals who you are.
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Well, I also think that sports is also a metaphor in life, right?
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You would face adversity, you face challenges, you pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and then you move on.
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It's so it's that resilient spirit that with that I think sports maybe teaches, and it the word is teaches, you don't necessarily internalize it.
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You see it within others and you see within yourself as you develop and grow into the character person that you are.
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I think it it really develops us a lot socially with who we are, with like in internal sports, like a sport like golf, where you are your own official at the same time, and it's the honor system.
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Individual sports bring out and develop a certain muscle in your personality that team sports sort of work on a whole other different muscle in your personality and knowing how to, you know, when to lead, where to, you know, when to wear beige and kind of blend in.
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You know, you you you you have a totally different experience on team sports as opposed to individual sports.
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And it's just, yeah, it's part of it's not just a metaphor, it's really happening.
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Like that's the thing.
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There's a reality to sports where we're not just talking about metaphorically three strikes and you're out.
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No, this is literally three strikes and you're out.
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Here it is.
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This is your plate appearance.
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This is happening right now, and there's something beautiful about that.
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Yeah, and I also think that sports also helps teach you how to resolve conflict.
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Oh, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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How you react to winning and losing, again, it's uh one of those it won't build your character, but it will reveal it.
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Are you a good winner?
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Are you a poor loser?
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It's amazing how many people handle winning as poorly as some people handle losing.
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And sports how do you handle winning poorly?
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Is it just spiking the football in front of you?
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Oh, uh arrogance, cockiness, uh, you know, becoming overly braggadocious or too confident, or you know, just being a um a social media troll about it.
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You know, it's like it's it's not enough for me to win and feel good about it.
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I gotta make you feel bad that you lost.
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You know, there's there's an element to it.
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But are the majority of professional athletes that and coaches that you've interviewed, are they more humble and cocky or humble and or excuse me, cocky and arrogant, or cocky and humble?
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I find an awful lot of athletes definitely lean into the humility level of of how they they have approached their career.
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They know that it hangs in the balance of a personal injury could change anything at any time.
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So I think they're grateful for the opportunity.
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They're certainly grateful for the reward, which can be overwhelming, you know, at many levels.
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Um and I think they yeah, there's there is a humility to the professional athlete because they understand how pardon me.
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They understand how 1% they really are.
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I mean, to become a to become a professional athlete, you have so separated yourself from the very, very, very, very good.
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Like the very, very, very, very good still ain't the pros.
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The pros are at a level of we'll show you how the single worst major leaguer you can find is incredible at playing Major League Baseball.
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It's just rough out there because everybody's a pro.
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You know, I mean, it's I think that's raw talent, or is it uh just years of of uh of professional craft?
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Well, I think at the ultimate professional level, there is no faking a level of talent.
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You know, you you can't just guile your way to a professional career.
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You have to have a physical standard that you meet to reach the level of competition in this league.
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Um so there there is an element of of certainly what you're born with, but how hard do you work?
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You know, it's not quite the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.
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How determined are you to um I I tell my my six-year-old, character is who you are when no one is looking.
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Which means, are you gonna do your homework without me asking you to do it?
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Do you just do your homework?
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Are you going to pick up the coloring book and the crayons when you're done?
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Am I gonna have to remind you to do that?
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Do you, you know, do you just do the right thing without having to be told to do it?
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And every single professional athlete you've ever met has spent more hours working on their craft than they do on the stage under the big bright lights.
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And, you know, it's it's it's an incredible endeavor to be a professional athlete.
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Well, I'm curious to find out if you were if you are allowed to share.
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And that is what's the most Ted Lasso like athlete or coach you've ever met?
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Someone who leads with belief in kindness instead of ego.
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Oh, it's Steve Kerr.
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I mean far and away, Steve Kerr.
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Steve Kerr is You know, he's idolized here at the University of Arizona, where uh which is where I live in Tucson.
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Steve is genuinely one of the most thoughtful, caring, like legitimately good people I've ever had the pleasure of talking to, not in any interview process, but just in in my life.
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Like Steve Kerr is good people.
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Steve Kerr, you if something doesn't he yell and scream though, when when he when he needs to be?
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Oh, well, that's all part of it.
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That's part of the deal.
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That that's you know, so how can you be kind?
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Um, and I again I'm not I'm just want to be able to understand, right?
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You can be kind, you can be selfless, yet you can still light a fire in people's, you know what.
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Uh uh emotions flare in an emotional environment like sports.
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And I think um you have to have some thick skin.
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Uh, just in the world.
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I think I th I I think developing a thicker skin as we're talking about gratitude is something that you know the world needs to work on.
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We need to start having a little uh, you know, uh I'm I'm rubber, you're glue, your bad words bounce off me and stick to you.
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You know, I we we could use a little thicker skin out there.
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Um but Steve Kerr is a level of kind that you get a lot more of than any developing of thick skin.
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You know, this is this this was a guy who was such a competitor.
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Michael Jordan punched him one day in practice.
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You know, if you if if if if you are that pesky where you're gonna get Michael Jordan to throw a punch at you, you're you're a competitor.
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And in that punch, a bond was formed that only makes sense in the world of sports.
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We would not recommend this is how you bond with someone in any other world or realm of business.
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But sports are their own little world that you know, people and and the the alpha male exists in, and it's it's all part of it.
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And it so anyway, uh Steve Kerr.
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Like, if if something terrible were to happen to me, like I would trust Steve Kerr to get it right with my family, much less a basketball team.
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You know, is there anything in particular he said to you that made you perhaps change a perspective?
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Well, I think you know what it really was more than anything, it's the volume of conversations I've had with Steve Kerr.
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He was a weekly guest on my show through the basketball season, through the almost entirety of the Warriors, certainly at the top of their dynasty.
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So we're we're listening to a man having a level of success.
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I thought I'm sorry, I thought he also did that with uh with with Tom Tolbert as well.
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He did do that with Tom as well.
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It's it's and the reason why is because they were both Arizona guys.
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I think one was another guy's groomsman in their wedding.
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Like they're real friends.
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They're acting I'm sorry, just a little side note, but please continue.
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Yeah, they're real world friends.
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And so the advantage that I was supposed to have as a talk show host with having the Warriors exclusively on my show was done in by this incredibly unique situation that, you know, of course would be happening to me, but uh it it didn't matter because I think you got two totally different sorts of interviews.
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Um, one that was, you know, a little bit more, you know, matter-of-fact and business like, and a little which one and one which was chummier and brought out different elements.
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And I I thought it was very interesting.
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I thought it was yeah.
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Um, anyway, back to Steve.
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I I mean hundreds of 20-minute-long conversations I've had with this guy.
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And who you really are while you are having hundreds of those conversations at the pinnacle of your success, I think reveals a lot who you are.
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You know, like I said, some people handle success poorly.
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Steve Kerr handled his success with more humility and grace and um and a plum than you could ever imagine.
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He would even say, like, Damon, this is the imaginary NBA.
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What we're doing right now, Kevin Durant is here.
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Like, this isn't real.
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This is enjoy this.
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We are, this is Xanadu.
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This is not real.
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Even though it is real and it's happening, this is not the real NBA.
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For us, we are at this moment in time where all the stars have aligned and we are this monster.
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But there's a lot of pressure to perform.
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And I'm, I guess, again, I've probably that's one of the things that I always take away from sports is with all of that gravity on you, right?
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Some it's self-directed, some it's by outside external factors, you're still able to perform under pressure.
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It's incredible how the spotlight is so on these guys.
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24 hours, it's not even during the game or the post-game interview anymore.
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It's social media buzzing about you 24 hours a day.
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It's uh, you know, a kid in Nebraska who's angry that you dropped a pass in a game that made him lose his fantasy football game that is just riding you.
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You know, a kid let's talk about that.
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I mean, that's an area that I want to explore as well, because you know, as sports talk show hosts like yourself, you are often targets yourselves of criticism.
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And how do you cope with that?
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Backlash, personal attacks, or even maybe threats that come from passion fan bases, and knowing that perhaps at times you are an instigator of these types of conversations, respectfully speaking.
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I humbly answer thick skin.
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Thick skin.
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We're right back to the topic of thick skin.
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And I think if you you know, anyone who's got a public-facing forward job, whether you look into a camera or speak into a microphone, if you're putting yourself out there, people will come at you just for having the goal, the audacity to be putting yourself out there in the first place.
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You know, I'm sure this is something I think there's a component here of bullying as well, because you know, again, if I happen to look at a middle school teenager who's trying to overcome something where they have been bullied with or cyberbullied, or, you know, galotov's, let's go meet in the park at three o'clock.
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There is that thick skin element that I think we all need to have.
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And again, a lot of this podcast focuses on the themes of our self-awareness and our inner spirit in order for you to be the best version of yourself.
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And that also means defending yourself or sensing where things are coming into harm's way.
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Well, and I think it's, and this is uh, I think a hard message to deliver to a group of a generation of kids who've grown up online in a way that I did not grow up online.
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You know, I didn't receive my first email until I was in college.
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I there was no internet when I was a teenager.
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Was it Telnet?
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Because that's what I used.
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University of Washington.
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Oh no, my my first no, it was an uh an Indiana.edu address.
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It was my college email address, it was my first email address.
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I'm like, what do you mean when I press send, they get it?
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How long does it take to get delivered?
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How long what do you what do you mean?
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Like, I watched the internet happen when I was in college.
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Like, I remember going to the library to look at the internet.
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What's that?
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It was being invented.
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So, you know, there's a world that your teenage daughter has grown up in that I did not experience as a teenager.
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And I think my life might have been better off for it because I was not exposed to a level of bullying and cyber attention that is overwhelming for adults, much less teenagers, much less children.
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Um, adults aren't wired to be overwhelmed by social media and constant messaging, much less a developing young mind.
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So that's a that's a scary thing.
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And I think it's it's um it's something that parents need to be concerned with.
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It's something that we all need to be concerned with.
