Aug. 19, 2025

Turning Life Challenges Into Service: The Story of Yogesh Patel

What happens when you leave decades of corporate success to follow a mission that moves your soul? Top YouTuber Jen Hardy from the "Fabulous Over 50" podcast interviews the host, Yogesh "Yogi" Patel, on his own podcast, sharing more of his journey from tech sales at Apple and Dell to creating YoggNation: The Spirit of Gratitude podcast. 💡What you will Learn How personal challenges can spark life-changing purposeStrategies for turning rejection into opportunityThe role of gratitude and prese...

What happens when you leave decades of corporate success to follow a mission that moves your soul?

Top YouTuber Jen Hardy from the "Fabulous Over 50" podcast interviews the host, Yogesh "Yogi" Patel, on his own podcast, sharing more of his journey from tech sales at Apple and Dell to creating YoggNation: The Spirit of Gratitude podcast.

💡What you will Learn

  • How personal challenges can spark life-changing purpose
  • Strategies for turning rejection into opportunity
  • The role of gratitude and presence in everyday resilience

🔑 Key takeaways:

  • Adversity can be transformed into inspiration for yourself and others
  • Vulnerability and authenticity strengthen personal and professional impact
  • Chasing tranquility leads to a more balanced, meaningful life

Listen now to discover practical wisdom, inspiring stories, and a fresh perspective on overcoming challenges.

00:00 - Introduction to Yogesh Patel

03:05 - From Tech Sales to Purpose-Driven Podcasting

06:04 - High-Profile Guests and Inspiring Stories

09:56 - Chasing Tranquility Amid Challenges

17:40 - Gratitude and Vulnerability

24:29 - Gen X Wisdom and Final Thoughts

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Welcome to the Yoga Nation, the Spirit of Gratitude podcast on the One Integration platform.

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Hello friends, my name is Yogesh Patel and this podcast explores the themes of bullying, self-awareness and the power of our inner spirit, including the silent battles we all face.

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Join me every week as I invite high-profile guests, as we explore how adversity shapes us, how gratitude lifts us and how we can all uncover the inner strength that we all have within ourselves.

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Join the conversation.

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I appreciate you listening in.

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Today I have got someone with an incredible story for you, and I brought him to you for a reason because there are so many of you that think about doing what he's done, and it was a very brave thing to do.

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So I would like him to tell his own version of the story.

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So thank you so much, Yogesh, for joining me today here on Fabulous Over 50.

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Thank you, jen, wonderful to be here and hello to your audience.

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And if you could start out by saying who is Yogesh?

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Oh, great question.

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So I always like to start out by with a little joke.

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Why did and I go by Yogi, by the way so why did God create Yogi Bear?

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Because he made a boo-boo.

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I'm sure that for the audience over 50, you know exactly the cartoon that I'm talking about.

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But, jokes aside, who I am is?

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Well, let's start out by myself.

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Yogesh Patel yogi chases tranquility, that calm, undisturbed mind that just tries to be balanced in all facets of my life.

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However, the podcast that I started August of last year, 2024, yoke Nation, the spirit of gratitude.

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That person has the size of an eagle as large as the United States, and so it's a delicate dance between who I am and who I project at any given moment in time.

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Am I, am I more yogi?

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Yogesh patel yogi or am I more yog nation?

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That's who I am.

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So I've got an alter ego.

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I love that, though, because I feel like a lot of us do.

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Right, we have this person on the inside that just wants to get out and speak a little bit more, and you have found a platform to be able to do that, which is incredible.

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But it's the way you, the direction you took in getting to this platform, that I really stood out to me, because you did something a lot of people want to do.

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You, you set a goal for yourself and you said you know what, I'm over here and I'm very successful over here, but now I want to be over there.

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So you know what I'm going to do.

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I'm going to do it, and you know there's not a lot of doers out there, and you are a doer.

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You made a choice and you're doing it.

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Can you tell people what you were doing and what you decided to move over to, because I find your story so compelling.

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Thank you.

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So I spent nearly 30 years of being in high-tech sales, having worked at companies like Apple and Dell and startup organizations as an enterprise account executive, and how this vision of the podcast began was looking at my daughter's struggles being bullied in middle school because she has Tourette's.

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She's 21 next week, oh my goodness.

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But in middle school, those were probably the most toughest of years.

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She was made fun of, teased kids pulling her hair I don't know why they do that in middle school, but yet they do.

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And you know, as a result of of the building that she experienced in middle school, she was able to, uh be a writer of two books, because writing was always one of the things that calmed her ticks down, because she was really focused, and so she wrote two books, uh, bringing awareness to tourette syndrome and bringing awareness to bullying, the second book being a number one release on amazon when it first came out, uh, titled the terrible bullies, and the book terrible was in quotations because you find out that, well, she has three messages.

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Number one that the person that's being bullied- you know, have the courage to stand up and stick up for yourself, find those resources that can help support you.

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Number two was for the person that is being the bully here have the awareness that what you're doing, you're saying, is harming the individual.

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Stop it right, karma's going to get you.

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And the third I think is most important is what terrible is in quotations, because you find out that all bullies are not terrible.

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And so those are the three messages that she shared in her second book.

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And you know, beyond just the bullying experiences and the adversity that she had to overcome psychologically and emotionally she also worked at the Ritz-Carlton for a year.

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It's like how does a kid granted, she's our daughter, the way that Ami and I had raised her how does a kid, going through this emotional trauma, set out to do these things in spite of this adversity that she faced?

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And so I happen to believe that you know, over time, as she grew into a maturing adult, it's the resolve, it's the resiliency and it's her own character that she developed with these bullying experiences that she had to overcome, and so I thought that it made sense to share this message in a way that, or through the podcasting medium, I could hopefully inspire, educate, entertain a listener, but, more importantly, they'll learn something about themselves.

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And so, bottom line, jen, to answer your question in a nutshell, I found my purpose in life.

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And that's what I'm doing, why I'm doing it.

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So incredible and your podcast is relatively new on the podcast scene and yet you get very incredible high-profile guests.

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Why do you think that is?

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I'm allowed to dream.

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You know it's like gee.

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Wouldn't it be nice if I had an NFL legend come to talk about diversity?

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And he talks about, you know, gratitude being the the XO of all things that we have from a human standpoint.

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You know, being able to you able to call an astronaut and say, would you care to be invited to this?

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I guess it comes with my sales background.

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It's okay if I hear no.

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Perhaps for me, a no is really not a not, yet I don't know.

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Diversity is also important in terms of the guests that I have on, in terms of their age, profession, background, culture, because, jen, I'm sure, as you know, the listener needs to have some sort of relationship either with the host or the guests, and so what I try and do is trying to bring guests that are well-rounded, that are successful, that are well-rounded that are successful.

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Again, all episodes are not necessarily about bullying, but perhaps finding stories about their inner spirit or their self-awareness that the listener can identify themselves and say yes.

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From what say Luke Ruster shared, I can relate to that.

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I can take that journey of self-discovery within myself.

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It's, you know, former UFC fighter Cliff Starks.

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When I asked him, it's like dude, aren't you afraid to get hit?

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In the octagon he goes yes, I am.

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However, I turned my fear into faith, or Bandit the Manoj Dutt, who's the personal priest for Nick Jonas and Dranka Chopra.

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You know he shared that 90% of all of our worries, problems, struggles, challenges are self-created in mind in terms of the wrong expectations, the wrong beliefs, the wrong knowledge, the wrong way that you are perceiving right.

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That's not necessarily true.

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So those are the things that I get inspired and it's like gee if I can get these individuals what if?

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Right Now granted, it comes with a lot of blood, sweat and tears, right, but I'm just grateful that you know I've taken the I guess not the power, but what I've learned in sales and how to apply it in something that is so purposeful for me that I just want to share to the world.

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So that's what gets me excited.

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I love it.

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So you, you go out and you inspire people with these incredible guests and your own words, you, the way that you speak and how you talk about being grateful and gratitude is something that not enough people, I believe, are speaking about right now.

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I think it's so important Gratitude right, because I feel like our culture is a lot of I want Right, I want that, buying culture, and if I only had whatever.

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But you're talking about being having gratitude right now that something clicks right within that individual.

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It's the right message at the right time Right now, I think, for me, fortunately, because it is called the spirit of gratitude, people tend to gravitate, but I mean, if you look more about, you know what Lewis Howes talks about with his guests or with Jay Shetty or yourself.

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There are these clips that make you self-reflect.

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And again, I'm just trying to put more messaging, more positive messaging, out there, because I also happen to believe that the reason why I chose the medium of the podcast is because there's just not enough wisdom on social media, you know, there isn't quality messaging to help young adults and adolescents especially, you know, overcome adversity, whether it's bullying or fighting their own inner demons, and so that's what I try to inspire.

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But you know, the demographics, you know, show that it's a percentage equal of both men and women in the age groups of their 20s, 30s and 40s and 50s, and so it's a universal message that I believe that anyone that you know speaks through a microphone does happen to have that I just, you know, happen to believe that I try and refine it in such a way that I ask these intelligent questions, doing my homework on each guest to allow them to share their experiences, allow them to be vulnerable, to make a person, on the other hand, a listener, to say, wow, if Ruben Gamage could survive Hurricane Katrina.

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Seeing dead bodies, seeing feces float in Louisiana being transported into Phoenix and standing up a nonprofit to help disadvantaged men, turn them into leaders, there's something to be said.

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So I know it's not sexy, it might not be a shower thought that I could do, but uh I'm just, uh, you know, I'm just, I'm just grateful now it doesn't come with emotional toll, right, I mean it is hard, uh, but I've accepted it, I've chosen it, and the reason why it becomes hard is because, you know, it does tend to to weigh on the financials.

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I'm not getting too specific, but there are times where I'm like, ok, how am I going to make sure I feed my family and not have a credit score score go down?

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So there are some of that.

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That goes on, you know.

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But again the the the positives outweigh the negatives.

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But again, the positives outweigh the negatives, and this is something that I'm very passionate about.

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I've chosen to do this full time.

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Let's see how long it takes me without having to go back to the working world and learn the W-2.

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Through God's grace, let's see what happens.

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I love it, okay, and so you decided, because you know tech sales is pretty lucrative, and when you made decided to follow your dream, which I mean, I cannot a hundred percent back that, how did your family feel, though?

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Were they a hundred percent behind you too, or were there?

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Was there a pushback, or there's no pushback.

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They're a hundred percent supportive.

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They are still a hundred percent supportive today.

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Um, you know, I'm just grateful for that because I tend to look for them for that emotional support that I need every so often where I break down and say, oh my God, how are we going to do this?

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How are we going to overcome just the day-to-day and it happens to a lot of families I just so have, and part of it is and something that I learned about myself is the gratitude the older self has to the younger self.

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And let me explain.

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You know that's why it's.

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You know, putting money into savings in retirement is so important.

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Not that to say that you will eventually take it out.

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Just imagine the future you being thankful and say, hey, instead of spending $5 on a Starbucks every day and putting that $5 into something that's going to grow over time, making that money work for you.

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And so you know, again, I thank a lot of the decisions I made, uh, younger.

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That allows me to agree to a certain degree, the flexibility of what I'm able to do, to, uh, have control of my time.

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I mean, I pride the freedom that I have, you know, and of course, there's pluses and minuses to everything.

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Jim, you know being able to wake up when you want, have the schedule that you want, but it comes at a cost, right, make no mistake?

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And are you prepared to deal with it?

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Emotionally, psychologically, mentally, which bleeds into the physically?

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Because I believe that the other half is making sure that you know you don't go insane doing this.

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You know protecting your sanity and that's where exercise comes in and just exercise and doing the thing that you like to do hobby, wise, whether it's reading a book, taking a nap, you know doing what you do, doing what you need to do to not only, you know, invest your time appropriately, but invest your energy in the right places.

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So you know, a lot goes on in terms of you know what?

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uh, you know what I think about on a daily basis it's amazing.

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That's where I chase tranquility.

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right, that's where I chase tranquility, that calm, undisturbed mind, you know.

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Am I able to fulfill it every day?

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No, do I try to.

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Yes, is that what the definition of success would be?

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Yes, it's that pursuit.

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I love that and I love the word chase.

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Right, You're not saying, oh, I just sit back and I'm tranquil all the time because I've got it down right.

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No, no, that's you're saying.

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I am constantly pursuing that, though, and and I don't know that word as you were speaking just really hit me why you've chosen it, and because words are so important, aren't they?

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And I just if so, for those of you listening, just hear, you know, yes, he's gone out and he's done this thing and it's incredible, and he set himself up to be able to do something incredible.

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But also, there is work.

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There is work on the psychological side, on the all fronts, and you have to be willing to do it.

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But let's look into this gratitude word a little bit.

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I know there's a lot of people out there.

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There are a lot of people struggling.

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They're not grateful.

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They may be in a position in their life and they're thinking why would I have gratitude for this?

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Can you answer that question?

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That's a deep question.

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It is On the onset and I may be rude, may be controversial, but, no, you can't.

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And I say this with sincerity and respect, in the sense that we all go through emotional trauma.

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Whatever, I don't know you, you don't know me.

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However, the thing that I can only offer you in this moment of time that we're together, when you ask me this question, is I don't, I haven't been in your shoes, I don't know what it's like, right?

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If you give me the opportunity to allow me to listen to why you think that, right, maybe I can.

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There is something that I could offer, maybe a quote, maybe something from my personal experience for them, for that individual to say, huh, I didn't realize that.

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Does that make sense?

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So I would need to learn more about the individual, why they're saying that.

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I mean, I think they're coming at a place where you know, perhaps there had been something in the past that has allowed them to become angry or something.

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But you know, part of it is a lot of it is communication and having that empathy, having that kindness, uh, sympathy towards others initially, now, over time, hopefully, you know, you develop a relationship and rapport, uh, but you know sometimes, uh, the more you know people, the more you don't want to know them, if that makes sense.

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But be kind, kind, right, be kind, be empathetic, and you know, if, if you, if someone says that to me, I will take time to listen to what they said, why they said it, and if they are unwilling to and I guess that's where I revert back to that controversial statement that I made I can't help you.

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You have to open up, you have to be vulnerable, you have to allow me to understand and empathize what you're trying to say.

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I think that's one of the most honest answers I've ever gotten, Sorry go ahead.

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It's about honest, right it's.

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It's about open, honest, vulnerable conversations.

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You know, I had the CEO of the Tourette's association with a question I asked her to tear up.

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I didn't mean to, but again, it's that vulnerability.

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But I think people that are so afraid it's not bad.

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It's not bad people, Just open up.

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Someone's going to listen to you.

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Trust, because there is someone out's going to listen to you.

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Trust, because there is someone out there who will listen to you.

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And yeah, that's incredible.

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And I think if you're in a position where you're not feeling gratitude, like you said, I mean, you may be knee deep in it, maybe you can't, but if you chase gratitude right, like you chase tranquility, you will eventually catch it.

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Yeah and it.

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If you chase gratitude right, like you chase tranquility, you will eventually catch it.

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Yeah, and it's.

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And it's being present too right it's being present.

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You know, if you can't express a gratitude because of things that happened in the past, you're still not.

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I mean, you're not living in the present.

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And for me, if you ask me that question, I want you to be present.

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And for me, if you ask me that question, I want you to be present, right, um, and even for those that do appreciate gratitude as they're struggling, it gives you that motivation that it's going to be okay the next day if that makes sense.

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And so I can, you know, certainly you know relate to that because, uh, for the past, I don't know, 30 years I've been dealing with eye issues.

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I don't talk about this too much, jen, on the podcast, because my motivation, my inspiration, is my daughter, but I look at my own journey and what I've been able to overcome from a health issue where you know within 24 hours, I was going to lose my left eye.

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I was either going to see it in a glass jar or I was going to have surgery.

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So I elected to have surgery and the one thing or maybe it wasn't surgery at the time, it was bacterial infection that was going to lead me to lose the eyeball right, just because of the optic nerve damage in the back.

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And so the one thing I again yeah, I didn't feel sorry for myself it's like, okay, it sucks right, I have to do what I have to do.

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But then the next morning it's like the only thing I wanted was sorry I'm going to get a little emotional here was looking at my daughter and the spiritual energy that she had to make sure that it's going to be okay.

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I will be able to see.

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I know this is not going to capture the best audio, but you can no, no, no, I'm not worried about that.

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The raw emotions I have, even 24 years later.

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I'm not worried about that.

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The raw emotions I have, even 24 years later.

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That is what I'm grateful for.

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That's why I started the podcast and I appreciate you sharing that, because I know that wasn't at all easy.

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And I think it touches on something and, sina, you're going to make me cry is that people may look at you and think he's so successful, he's doing all these things, he's doing what he wants, he's got this perfect life right, because everybody thinks everyone else has a perfect life.

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But what they don't realize is the struggle that you went through to get here.

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Yeah, and if you didn't?

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through that would you be as?

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grateful.

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I'm sorry.

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I just thank you for being vulnerable and sharing that.

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I think people need to understand that.

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You know because people will look at me.

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That's why I did the video I did about you know who is Jen Hardy.

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You know because people are like what is this?

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You know doing all these things and why do you get to do all these things?

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I don't get to do all these things and no well, but you have to understand.

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I'm lucky to be doing any of the things and you know, and for you, you know, to just see your daughter today is a gift.

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Every day that you see as a gift and if nothing else went well that day, that could be something that you're grateful for.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I mean, I always like to joke to people that Yog Nation again, yog Nation is spelled with two Gs, not one.

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The extra G stands for either gratitude or gangsta.

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I love it.

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That's what I like to do to inject some humor into this, I guess the gratitude subject itself could be taken seriously, or just something that you know makes you reflect at the end of the day.

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So that's what I try and do every day.

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You know I don't know social media, so I have a team that helps me get that message across.

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I have a lot more views and followers, something that I'm working to try and correct and change.

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So, even being over 50, I'm still learning, and sometimes I don't like it, but it's like okay, got to do what you got to do.

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And I think that's not the lesson too, in terms of helping you get from point A to point B.

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Is that, besides just being uncomfortable, right or being comfortable with being uncomfortable?

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It's like you got to do what you got to do.

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I mean, you're either going to sacrifice your time, money or effort.

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What is it that you choose?

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So it's again it's, and it's great to learn.

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You know from fellow podcasters like you and others that I could just learn something.

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I think that's where also the gratitude comes in too, because it helps you appreciate the perspective of a Reuben Gammage, of a Parnik Manojnath right, of a Matthew Earl Jones right.

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The younger brother of late James Earl Jones, who talks about kindness is the domain of the strong and if you think about that statement alone, right Again it leads to that empathy and sympathy.

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And again I mean he's been a Hollywood producer behind the camera.

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His brother, older brother, james Earl Jones, likes to be in front of the camera, so it's just.

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Again I'm grateful of the message that.

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I'm sharing.

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I'm grateful that these high profile guests are saying yes and I'm grateful that, most importantly, the message is being heard and received.

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So you brought up being over 50.

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And so people who are listening, if they're of a certain age, what one piece of advice would you give to them before we go today?

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Over 50?

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.

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Over 50.

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Or anyone, I mean humans in general.

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Right Either way.

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I mean it's going to be trite to say, or commonplace to say, don't give up.

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Right, that's obvious, because many people may not internalize that.

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I don't know.

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It's just being over 50, I'm in the Gen X population and we Gen Xers rule.

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Let's just put it that way.

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We were brought up in an era where we learned from our parents.

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We learned what good manners are and we had that collective wisdom of playing the playground and what fistfights would do to learn about how we would cope with life and then teaching that to our children.

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It could be millennials or alphas or gen.

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I don't even know what the hell these generations are called anymore, but I don't know.

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Just I mean, I'm sure it's not the answer you're looking for, but for the person that's over 50, we Gen Xers, man, we got this, we rule the world.

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We know what we're doing right.

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and that's where the gangsta in me comes in there you go, and, and you know, and you said never give up, and and it may sound trite, but there is one person listening who needed to hear that today and and you followed up with the whole thing, right, and that is just keep going, just keep going well.

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I think it's also, whatever it is, well, I think it's also important for the person that's listening.

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It's not just yes, I heard you, but I'm myself, I don't know you.

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I am allowing you and giving you permission to think that because I think a lot of the messaging out there.

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People are afraid.

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They just need someone to give them an initial spark to push them forward.

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It could be a stranger, it could be a friend, it could be someone from law enforcement, a counselor, a school resource officer, it doesn't matter, a teacher.

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It's like just someone needling you, pushing you, just to say it's okay, you got this.

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And I think that is more of the appropriate answer to your question, jen.

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Is you know for a person, that my advice to anyone?

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I love it.

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All right.

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And now somebody that wants to tune in.

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They want to listen to more of you.

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Where are they going to find you?

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Great question.

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So I am found on both streaming and social media platforms.

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Streaming, everything is Yoga.

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Nation based, that's Y-O, what the spelling is Y-O-G-G-N-A-T-I-O-N.

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So you'll find every new weekly episode that comes out on Tuesdays that's put on social meet or, excuse me, on the streaming platforms and YouTube social meet or, excuse me, on the streaming platforms and youtube.

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And then on wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday, it's five shorts, uh, five instagram reels, uh, that I put uh on facebook, instagram, youtube tech talk getting some good wisdom out there.

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So hope you listen in amount in.

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So I hope you listen in, I hope you like.

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Please tell me your thoughts.

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It's too obvious to say like and subscribe and I'm not going to do that.

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But at the end of the day I just want the messaging from any of my guests to somehow find a way to see if it makes a difference in what you're going through at that particular moment and if you're looking for some inspiration, definitely want to check it out, because I have watched a lot of his episodes and they are all incredible.

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So thank you, yogi, so much for joining us today.

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You have given us a lot to think about and we are grateful for you thank you, jen, appreciate you having me on.